Be A Child

When you need to be creative you need to go back to being a child. Carly and Christine explore Los Angeles on their next film set, "Shaky Shivers" with the director/actor Sung Kang from the Fast N' Furious Franchise. erzuliefilm.com

Transcript

Adam Rani 00:23

Yay, we did it you guys I'm so sorry it took so long but ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Get Reelisms podcast. I am Adam Chase Rani

Christine Chen 00:36

I'm Christine Chen.

Carly Shiell 00:37

I'm Carly Shiell.

Adam Rani 00:40

Welcome the podcast. Oh my gosh. Carly, how's it hanging? What's chilling what's good?

Carly Shiell 00:47

Just here in LA with Christine about to go to Frazier Park and get going on our second day. Migraine mode right now.

Adam Rani 00:56

So, you have a set happening in Frazier Park. Can you be there like anything you can talk about from that set?

Christine Chen 01:03

We signed NDA so we can't really mention anything. Except that we think the cast and crew are pretty well, we have only met the crew, so we think the crew thus far that we've met at least the department-to-department heads are pretty cool. So, I'm excited about that.

Adam Rani 01:25

So uh, is it is it both your guys first time in LA? No, it's not your first time Christine.

Carly Shiell 01:32

My first time in LA though.

Adam Rani 01:33

How are you liking it, Carly?

Carly Shiell 01:35

it's been actually great. Um, like I like all the stereotypical California things like being on the beach and all the good food we eat?

Adam Rani 01:44

Yes

Carly Shiell 01:51

Also, so that was a full day which is very LA as well.

Adam Rani 01:57

I mean, that's just luxurious you guys are living you guys are just living that luxurious life you know treat yourself that's the way it's supposed to be.

Christine Chen 02:08

It has been far cry from our usual swamp life we had for a while.

Carly Shiell 02:14

I had only been in Louisiana for the past two years another Texas, so it's been nice to get out

Adam Rani 02:23

Yeah, not being swamped whether I'm sure Wait, have you guys seen Roxy yet?

Christine Chen 02:28

Yes, we have we have yesterday Yes. And also, Roxy is the key hair and makeup on this shoot as well.

Adam Rani 02:39

That's amazing. Wow

Carly Shiell 02:41

She already provided me a list of themes. Suggestions.

Adam Rani 02:48

You can rely on Roxy for coordinating outfits and stuff. Yeah, there's once or twice we did.

Carly Shiell 02:55

when we went to her house yesterday. She sent us a map with parking like outlined in green versus yellow for two-hour parking. Like Wow, thank you so much for this location map.

Adam Rani 03:08

We both share a love of color coordination. We love it. We love it so much organization and color-coding stuff is an absolute fucking treat for me.

Christine Chen 03:19

I don't know if he shares a love of impractical packing.

Adam Rani 03:24

Wait, what? impractical? Packing?

Christine Chen 03:27

impractical. Isn't the word impractical? Yes. Yes. impractical? Packing. Yes.

Adam Rani 03:32

Well, I'm an idiot. So, you have to explain that to me.

Christine Chen 03:35

Yeah, so uh, Roxy and Carlene share a common thread of the pack whatever it's like a lot. They don't know how to pack small especially Roxy and all the stuff she always packs are like not practical to say.

Carly Shiell 03:52

Everything right pack was very deliberately well thought out for all settings because we we've been in like the desert and the lake at the beach. Just like in a city. Yeah, so we it's gonna be cold at night. So, I don't know if Christine didn't pack enough. In my opinion.

Christine Chen 04:11

I don't know. I don't know about having so many pairs of shoes.

Carly Shiell 04:15

Alternatively, I've worn almost all the shoes I brought within a week and a half. But Christine, instead her car's just full of random equipment that we have. No, I'm using well here.

Adam Rani 04:27

I mean, listen, our girl has to have options. What do you what do you want from us, Carly? I mean, come on.

Carly Shiell 04:32

Oh, our priorities are different. Yeah.

Christine Chen 04:37

I have equipment and then one bag of clothes. And then Carly has a million bags of clothes.

Carly Shiell 04:45

I have two bags of clothes, large bags, and then another bag of shoes.

Adam Rani 04:50

A million bags of clothes. Christine.

Christine Chen 04:54

You see the car?

Adam Rani 04:56

Wow. Yeah. I thought I overpacked for originally, honestly. Like when we were when we were traveling down. Even Kelly said the same thing. It was just like, um, I don't think I packed enough I thought I packed enough but I clearly didn't fuck pack enough.

Carly Shiell 05:15

Yet Christine is also maybe I didn't pack enough.

Adam Rani 05:19

Yeah.

Carly Shiell 05:21

Oh, I didn't bring boots. Oh, this

Adam Rani 05:24

But I also I also hate carrying a whole bunch of shit too. You know/. really it. I don't know. It draws so much energy out of me that I can't even wrap my head around. That's just so many laundries to deal with.

Carly Shiell 05:40

Yeah, we did laundry at Roxy's yesterday while chilling up the pool and doing prep stuff.

Adam Rani 05:46

Do you guys like live there? What's happening?

Christine Chen 05:50

We've joked that we've accidentally move. The only thing stopping us is the extreme prices for wherever housing you can for possibly afford. So yes.

Adam Rani 06:08

So have well, yeah, I can. Yeah, I can talk about this currently. Have you been to a dispensary yet? Yes.

Carly Shiell 06:17

Yeah. Our first night?

Adam Rani 06:19

It's a wonderland, isn't it? Yes. It's a wonderland. It's

Carly Shiell 06:24

Colorado that was like a little shop. Right? But then we went here, and we went to like an Apple Store type like they have iPad, and you are ordering and then they like package it downstairs and give you your little bags.

Christine Chen 06:37

It is nuts, the branding and the marketing and I'm just fascinated but literally was like the Apple Store weed. Yeah, like that's beautiful designs, beautiful displays. And like this dude with a with a Yeah, like Carlos did an iPad walked around be like what? What's What do you want to feel? And like? What are your goals for today? You know, and I thought about it.

Adam Rani 07:13

That is amazing.

Christine Chen 07:16

Yeah, what are your goals? What would you like? Do you want instant? Or do you want to take your time? It was just it was very funny.

Adam Rani 07:25

But you got to understand that civilization, you guys, that's what civilization is supposed to look like. It's supposed to look like that it's supposed to, you're supposed to go into a shop that is so welcoming. And the customer service is unbelievable. They're like, what do you want to feel? And sometimes it's like, it's like a real honest question that I would like probably to cry in front of my therapist about like, that's just like that. Just like, I want to feel great about myself. You know, be able to sleep, enjoy food. You know. It's such a different fucking experience, as opposed to like anywhere else where it's just like, I'm just here to get stoned and then go to bed.

Christine Chen 08:13

Yeah, it was. It was quite beautiful to see it. Very pleasant experience. Yeah, they had like these screens where you could answer questions, and it would spit out like what they were recommend. And yeah, I know it was. I was really impressed.

Adam Rani 08:36

Yeah, because that's technology at his fucking finest. And I think every dispensary should be like an Apple store. Just have everything ready and available. You just have an appointment and you're just like, Yeah, I'm here for Adam’s order. And they're just like, Oh, yeah. Oh, goodbye. And I don't need to talk to anybody up. Marvelous.

Carly Shiell 09:00

I'm ready for Texas to get it together there. So

Adam Rani 09:04

Oh, yeah. It's coming. It's coming. I feel I feel it in the in the horizons, but you look like you're about to fall over right now.

Christine Chen 09:19

I'm not. I'm actually I've actually been getting more sleep than I usually do. Yeah.

Adam Rani 09:25

Really?

Christine Chen 09:26

Ah, so I'm just relaxed. Also, I felt my age this morning. I coughed and then like somehow throughout my back, I don't know how that's possible. And Carly reminded me of a term that I'm now going to be using a lot which is I'm an elder millennial.

Carly Shiell 09:51

It's a comedy special.

Christine Chen 09:56

Elder millennial is so sad.

Adam Rani 09:59

Well, it's not that bad. You know, it's not that bad at all. I mean, in fact, you're talking to a pothead who's coughed so many times I threw out my back before. You know, it is what it is.

Christine Chen 10:18

But the cough was not because of we got our COVID test, so we're all negative, and it's great. When it can be its safe set. And now we're excited. It's been it's been a jam-packed week. We forgot. Like, I was mentioning a lot. I don't know. Wait, we skipped last week. And the reason for that was because we were road tripping it to LA.

Adam Rani 10:43

And I knew that, it's gonna it's a course of a few days from Texas to LA. And it there's there was no way that I was gonna, like do a podcast with you guys when you guys are already dead. That's just not fair.

Christine Chen 11:02

Yeah, we think is like we were just, it was a jam packed, and we kind of forgot that. We were coming to work, actually. Here just like we're, we're doing a national park tour.

Carly Shiell 11:15

We bought a national park pass. We plan to go through Zion, but we couldn't. So, we spent like the day Glen Canyon that Lake Powel. It was really beautiful up there. But yeah, then we decided to stay an extra day. Yeah, we're like, oh, yeah, we're going we're actually driving to LA. We have a purpose.

Christine Chen 11:39

I was like, oh, wait, what are we doing what's not vacation. But we kind of made it a vacation like a mini, a little mini vacation. So, it's been? It's, it's been a positive experience leading up to first day of production tomorrow. Yeah, which is jam packed. And then this week has been, Bruce, our friend that we're saying that it was an awesome producer. He was actually the one who coined that term, you guys are marketing. They guys are marketing, as we're meeting, we have. Luckily, based off of what we've been working on, we've racked up a pretty good list of people to see in LA, some of which I've forgotten. And also, it's still living really. So, it's been fun. You know, you'll post something on Instagram. And then somebody's like, Hey, I'm in LA too. And just meeting up with random people after this, we have a meeting with a friend who's also in the AD department, Katherine. And just it's just been yesterday, we had a lovely meeting with Mike Landry and Brandon and they, I AD a project called Nice to meet you for them last year, and they're doing this awesome series. And we talked about that there's this, there's something about LA that I felt when the first time was here and still feel coming back. It's this energy of wanting to make things happen. And it's very contagious, and everybody around you is trying to make something happen. And when you're surrounded by that energy, you feel inspired to do that as well. And I think that's why I enjoy coming here. Because I've I leave feeling very inspired or by my peers. So yeah, so it's been like, oh, we got to our, um, after meeting with or hanging out, meeting yourselves to clinical but hanging out with Michael brand. I'm like, I want to get my TV series up and running like right this second and it's got to be amazing, because, yeah, their pitch deck was like, like HBO already. It's beautiful. And they're going to launch here pretty soon and we're happy to push it and stuff and, um, and it's just I don't know, it's just inspiring seeing your friends like making it happen. You know?

Adam Rani 14:11

It is it is.

Christine Chen 14:12

Yeah. La has been cool. We're never coming back

Adam Rani 14:20

it's horrible.

Christine Chen 14:24

I'm okay to live in a star trailer for a bit my friend has a works for. I guess a studio and apparently on that lot. They have lots of star trailers and he said that they don't even know that those are really there, and you can pretty much pop in and squat there if you want. I'm like perfect. I will just live in a star trailer.

Adam Rani 14:48

Fuck it. Yeah.

Christine Chen 14:49

Fuck it. Yeah. So that's my backup plan. So, if you don't see me for a while, it is where I will probably be.

Adam Rani 14:56

That is understandable. I mean, I probably be right there behind you. Anyways, be like Hey, sis there another star trailer available boundary. Yeah, we'll just all live with

Carly Shiell 15:05

I will start star trailer community.

Adam Rani 15:09

Honestly, yeah, what I'm wrapping my head around it. I'm like star trailer that's actually doesn't too bad.

Christine Chen 15:22

Yeah. What's up with you?

Adam Rani 15:24

Uh, writing. Almost done with this script. It's close. We're getting down to the finish line.

Christine Chen 15:32

What does that mean?

Adam Rani 15:34

It means it means probably in another seven years that's what I'm hoping for. No, I'm kidding. It's gonna be it's gonna be very soon do I know it's, it's like tomorrow? No, it's not. It's real soon. I can. I can taste it. I mean, I've already talked to Well, I mean, I can talk about this off air. Never mind, I talked to people, like my buddies who, who I've been talking to the script about, like, kind of running it with him. And he's given me feedback and vice versa and stuff like that. So, I've, I've taken that, and really getting this script moving. So, you know, that's just been my focus and side gigs here and there. You know, I'm saying, ah, I'm gonna be actually I'm on another shoot later this month. So that's gonna be

Christine Chen 16:43

Getting stuff. You need to get your car situation so that you can go it's like we've been getting calls left and right about meeting PAs, meeting people.

Adam Rani 16:53

Hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, it's um, and ain't no picnic in Adam Land, that's for sure. But uh, yeah, I I'm definitely doing my absolute best. With the situation that I am in.

Christine Chen 17:11

Yes, that's all you can do is do your absolute best.

Adam Rani 17:14

Yes. And constantly feeling guilty anyways.

Christine Chen 17:20

But uh, I'm in the same boat with as you with yours is your you are in the script writing process. But I often compare the editing process to script writing as well. But yeah, tweaking days in is very, very frustrating. Because it's, every time you eat, it's a lot of false finishes, like, oh, I'm done. And then like, then you get notes again, and then tweak some more and then send it out. And it's like, it's really done. For reals. Now, final version three, and it comes with.

Adam Rani 17:56

Right, or you look back over it, and you're like, nope, nope, nope, nope, no pave it at all. Fuck this. Yeah.

Christine Chen 18:03

The nice thing about having this week and also us having our national park tour, is that I did force myself to not look at the edit for that week. So, coming back, it's yeah, definitely help with like looking at it being like, oh, I actually don't need to see or don't, it is easier to like, chop things like just chopping and without any emotional attachment. I think what gets to you is the emotional attachment. You know how long something took or how hard it was to film this one thing and you just want to keep it but when you're able to separate yourself from that, it's a lot easier to start making the trims, our friend Ben Jagger calls it a trim pass. I've never heard that but apparently that's the thing. A trim pass so I'm on the trim pass right now just cutting things left or right.

Adam Rani 19:00

Yeah., I mean, I mean, yeah, I can see I can see how that's um, yeah, I mean, I'm kind of I'm kind of almost there in that in that same regard but I don't know at the same time in please, Carly chime in for any like writing things that you've dealt with in the past. Because when it when it comes down to it with writing, it feels like.

Christine Chen 19:30

Wait, sorry. Dean Jagger, who is Ben Jagger's brother somehow has ended up on our Instagram Live. I signed up. He's kind of a big deal.

Carly Shiell 19:42

Is that his actual account?

Christine Chen 19:44

Yes. His actual Yeah, yeah. So, I don't know if he's still watching but we were talking shit about Ben. So glad you're joined to let them know that. But anyway, yeah, Ben, we go ahead. Sorry, I was oh,

Adam Rani 20:01

Go ahead Chrissy. No. So what about what about Ben?

Christine Chen 20:06

Uh, no, Ben is a very talented director who did one, two or three that we all on. We actually met him a few days ago. And it's been like director therapy. So, because you already went through this process, like he's picked up a lot of his film, and it's gone, and he can't, like, it's so gone that he can't even get access back to his film, which I can't imagine how that feels. Since I'm so like, My Drive is like a little baby that I carry everywhere. Right? Like my external, Carly knows, like, here's, let's bring the baby to wherever we're going. Yeah, and I've just been whenever we can. And there's power, you know, going in and to Little Bits trimming here and there and taking my time. And

Carly Shiell 21:01

I think you'll hire an editor next time. Like, like, emotionally attached editor.

Christine Chen 21:08

Me. I mean, Colby was kind of that for

Carly Shiell 21:11

Yeah, but I mean, like, and further into the process.

Christine Chen 21:14

If I have money, maybe yeah, I don't know, it'll be really hard. Because I think the hard part is like I there's a pace that I'm momentum that I want to maintain. And when I control it, I can I feel like I have controlled that momentum. But when it's in the hands of other people, they have lives they got, they can only you know, not everybody is, is dedicated or like that that's the terrible term. It's just like, this is my child. So, I'm going to put more time in than anybody else in the world. That's just how it's going. That's the reality of it, right? And so like, I can control the momentum so much, because I, it means so much to me, it's like a kid. And if I give this responsibility, somebody else, they might go on vacation for a week or so, you know, we'll do other stuff and have a life and like this is just a job to them. And they won't, it won't be at the pace that I possibly could expect and reasonably expect from people. Does that make sense?

Carly Shiell 22:26

I guess, set a timeline, and then they would meet it. Right

Christine Chen 22:30

Right, that is the hope in theory, that's what you hope. But then I've worked with enough people to know that if you give them a timeline they're going to take up until that even though I know you can get it done in a week or two earlier than what I've set the timeline. And then it drives me up the wall. So, it's nobody's fault. It's just how it is.

22:52

Can't you just set the timeline a week shorter?

Christine Chen 22:54

Yeah, but people will fight that. You know, like, no, like, I can't wait till you can. But it is fine.

Carly Shiell 23:03

You should do like a bonus for getting Yeah, sooner. Like an incentive. Yeah. I have seen people do something like that.

Christine Chen 23:10

Yeah, I think so. When I have a budget of some sort, I'll try to one day. Relinquish control. isn't my type A personality?

Carly Shiell 23:21

Yeah, I'm trying to prompt, like ways that you could let go. Yeah, I'm really trying to get Christine to focus on directing. And not the other things.

Christine Chen 23:34

But editing is part of directing, though. Yeah.

Carly Shiell 23:37

At the editing process.

Christine Chen 23:38

The process. Yeah, is sure. But yeah, I would have a much more fulfilling life if I didn't have to control every aspect of the film.

Adam Rani 23:49

Yeah, or you can just try to find an editor who's on the same emotional level as you when it comes to the passion that they have for the project.

Carly Shiell 23:58

yeah, it's possible. Nobody in the whole world that could ever.

Adam Rani 24:05

Out of the billions of people in this world, Carly, no one. Unbelievable. Center of Christine's universe here.

Carly Shiell 24:15

Yeah, I felt that same way as editing documentary and stuff though, too. Because especially like documentary that's like, where you're creating the story a lot of time and I'm like, Shit, I don't like necessarily to want to do this. But also, it's, that's the only way it's gonna get to like how I want to feel. And so.

Adam Rani 24:35

I think it's possible. I think you can, you can absolutely find an editor that works with you. I mean, there's plenty of directors who just keep the same editor they work with for decades. So, I'm sure it's like building a relationship. Christine. It's like how you found Kelly. It's like how you found Carly. It's how you found everybody; you know?

Christine Chen 24:58

Yeah, I just haven't found the guests. Just yeah. I don't have the money yet. Yeah. California. Yeah, I probably do know people, but they would cost an arm and leg because they deserve it. Yeah. I don't have the luxury to have that kind of budget yet. So.

Adam Rani 25:17

yes.

Christine Chen 25:21

So, it all comes down to one problem. I would like more money, please.

Adam Rani 25:29

The center of everybody's universe.

Christine Chen 25:31

Yes, Cinderella problems. But um, I mean, I'm just grateful I'm even this position, I have to keep reminding myself. Hey, I made it. We made a film. And it's pretty much done. And I'm just tweaking it, you know, so. But, uh, you can get I can get so buried deep in it being like, it's not. But Ben said, like, hey, it's it never done it if you abandoned it. That's all it is. Yeah, I really. I really related to that. He's like, you don't understand. Like, you'll never say I wasn't done word two or three. It was just a band. And they told me I couldn't do it anymore. And I'm like, oh, I guess. I guess we'll just come to a point where I'll just have to abandon the film. Yeah. It'll be called done. So, I'm not there yet. Not ready to abandon the child.

Carly Shiell 26:39

It's less abandonment.

Adam Rani 26:41

Yeah, it's just ready to move on. You are not going abandon it, are you out of your mind? Like you're gonna abandon a child? Yeah, I'm gonna put my child on the street because I you know, it is what it is. I have to abandon it.

Christine Chen 27:04

Leaving the hard drive out in the rain.

Adam Rani 27:10

In a ditch somewhere, abandon No. Oh. No, you love things so much Christine, that you're willing to let go of it. Does that make sense or me out of my mind too?

Christine Chen 27:28

No, you are right.

Carly Shiell 27:33

Like that word feels very harsh.

Adam Rani 27:35

I was waiting. I was waiting. I was gonna bite my tongue. And I'm like, you know, I don't I don't know. That really bothers me abandon. No, I have nothing against homie by the way. I'm sure he's a great guy. I would love to work with him. Please hire me. Um, yeah, no, I just I think when it comes to something that you love so much, it just, I don't know, like, like, any relationship, you just you, you put so much time and effort you remember the great times that you've had, and the fact that you even have a story in the first place in front of you, is a miracle just in of itself. True. But you want to, it's like a bonsai tree, you just want to keep you know, messing around with it. And then to the point where you have nothing else to trim and you're like, ah, okay, you know, and then you're nervous and you're get the cold sweats, but you have to let him move on.

Christine Chen 28:33

You know? Yeah, it's time. It's close. It's getting there.

Adam Rani 28:40

Yeah, and I have to learn to move on to clearly, I have trouble letting go. Jesus Christ.

Christine Chen 28:48

We all have separation anxiety.

Adam Rani 28:51

What has been I mean, we have Yeah, we have 10 minutes right. Christina? Are we good?

Christine Chen 28:55

Yes. We have 10 minutes.

Adam Rani 28:56

Carly, do you want to talk about your process in writing? I know I know. We talked about writing a little bit but I'm curious about your

Carly Shiell 29:07

honestly. Like I don't know that some area that's always kind of stressed me out and

Adam Rani 29:12

Even producing, to its it's a work of art just in of itself.

Carly Shiell 29:17

Right. Um, I mean basically just I find out as much information about whatever topic or whatever thing it is as possible and Google everyone and everything and then compile a bunch of notes and kind of been sort that's like my how I have to start to like start sorting out my mind thing.

Adam Rani 29:38

Yeah.

Carly Shiell 29:42

To do lists and like timelines starting to get like rough ideas of like, okay, it should take this. Let's try to meet that deadline and all that but I haven't produced my own project in a while. So.

Christine Chen 29:57

You own the process of yeah.

Carly Shiell 29:58

We're like developing develop, I would say, um, so but I'm letting my friends take over more of the writing part of things. And then we'll kind of like come at it and be like, does that make sense? Does that is that sellable? Is that the story that we want to tell all those things? But yeah, I'm seeing, like the developed like pitch deck and website from Grant and Michael. I'm like, wow, yeah, major inspiration a long way to go. It's stressful. I like I was talking also, I like, being like, collaborative. So, I don't like things all falling on. To me, I like having a co producer, a co-director to bounce ideas off of.

Adam Rani 30:46

Which there's some people who don't have that collaborative effort. You know, I mean, there's, there's a lot of people who were very much like, hands off, laissez faire, you know, kind of off to their own thing.

Carly Shiell 30:57

A lot of times, it's just like, I don't know, you can get so in your head about things. It's like, I'm not crazy, right? Like, this makes sense. We're doing this.

Adam Rani 31:05

And all Christina and I do is just get in each other's heads.

Christine Chen 31:10

Yeah, I'm in my head too much.

Adam Rani 31:12

I'm in my head. I'm not like, I'm I. I'm so far in my head. It's I need I need a break from me. Yeah. You know.

Carly Shiell 31:22

Writing helps with that. Or like, right. That's why I make all the lists and all the things like kind of, if not, that's all just happening in here all the time. So, it helps to put it somewhere else.

Adam Rani 31:33

Yeah, that's true. I mean, lately, I've just been going back to old movies that I've been, that's just been like, I just always go back to the things that inspired me the most, like, I've gone back to reading comic books for the first time in 15 fucking years. Like, I haven't read, like the last comic book run I've read was like Captain America when I was in middle school, like, I mean, that's just like, that was when I was really in comic books. And now I'm bit I'm back in it in a big bad way. And it's great. But it's also like, kind of like calling back to my childhood. And like all the other ideas that I had swimming in my fat, little brain, you know, when I was just walking around middle school, like, oh, would it be cool? If there was a movie? Ooh, you know, like, I just, I always have these thoughts in my head. I just never put it down on paper, but I remember them. I remember. That's the thing. It's like, and I go back reading these old comic books, or watching these old movies. I'm like, oh, my God, I had an idea about something like this, you know, and that's like, what gets me like, oh, my gosh, I need to finish a script, I need to get my life together. All that stuff.

Carly Shiell 32:49

A lot of adulthood is like reconnecting with the things that you enjoyed as a child. And then that's how you like, grow and kind have fulfillment as adult as well. Yeah, just like kind of, instead of like being like, oh, I shouldn't be spending my time reading comic books. Like no comic books inspire me. And that's something I actually love. And I should do that. And I had no idea. Yeah, and that's how I felt even like video games and stuff. It's like, I always I didn't I was like, I'm not gonna spend money on that. That's a waste of time. And then I like to find myself like playing iPad games and stuff. I'm like, why don't you just actually like you clearly enjoy this and it's helpful for you just

Adam Rani 33:28

Get yourself some games. Yeah.

Carly Shiell 33:30

Right. So now I got the Nintendo switch, bought an exercise game and then I've played that like, twice now I just plays all that so.

Adam Rani 33:40

Oh, you got the switch the Nintendo Switch.

Carly Shiell 33:44

Yeah.

Adam Rani 33:44

Oh, yeah. That's like

Carly Shiell 33:45

It was worth it.

Adam Rani 33:46

So worth it. Oh, my gosh, so worth it. Um, yeah, I That's how I feel about with comic books. I had no idea. Like, for some reason, kind of the same thing with video games. I'm like, at some point. I'm gonna get old. You know, and there's no way I'm gonna want to keep coming back to this eventually, I want to find a significant other. Like, this is not going to be great. But I realized that oh, no, those things are what shaped my imagination in the first place. Why would I abandon the very thing that has shaped who I am in the person I've become today? If it weren't for those comic books, like I probably just would probably still be a barista. So, you know, I have all of all of these thoughts and ideas and whatnot. I just never really understood how to articulate them or at least put it on paper when I was younger. So, when these old ideas come back, I'm just like, why the fuck like, what why don't I remember this? Like that was actually kind of a cool, neat little idea. And yeah, I don't know. I just I feel like you Yeah, we all have to, at some point, circumvent back to, you know, the old shit, the good stuff, The Greatest Hits between video games, movies, comic books, whatever it is, even music, like I even listened back to. I listened back to A, like old Backstreet Boys, you know, it was just like it was. But it also reinvigorated entire memory that I've completely like pushed out of my head at some point, or at least in the back of my head clearly, because I've never forgot about it. But it felt like I forgot about it, most of these memories and stuff like that.

Carly Shiell 35:41

I think you can consider anything research in that way. I mean, I know it's like, I used to feel guilty just sitting and watching TV too. And then I'm like, actually, I know a lot about TV series, and like, their development and like, I like, especially about certain genres that I enjoy. And I'm like, that's the kind of content I want to create. And I actually know that market very well from doing those things. So yeah, you never know where your inspirations gonna come from of like music, comment books, whatever, you know.

Adam Rani 36:10

Yeah. I even watched like, a really like, terrible movie, and it inspired. Like, I never seen it before. I'm not gonna say what it is. But it's not terrible. It's just, it was a different time, the 70s is different than 2021. You know, I mean, this is a different time. But when I watched that movie, I realized I'm just like, oh, right, this is, this is what I would have done, just rewriting it already in my head. I don't know if he ever done that or not. But like, I would just retroactively when I'm watching it, like rewrite it in my head. So, I kind of understand what the third act could be and what it should be. And then once I get to the third act, and it's not what I thought it could be, or should be, then I'm like, you made a mistake. You made a mistake. There was there was an opportunity here. I'm not saying it's a terrible movie. It's not. But there's opportunities that come up. And that's what makes us inspired

Carly Shiell 37:14

There are things where I'm like, well, why didn't you just do this? It was so clear and the development that we had going on? Yeah, a lot of ruins shows that way, too.

Adam Rani 37:25

Yeah. And then of course, like, I get those same friends who are just like, why do you have to like shit on a show? Like, you know, you've been in this industry. Or you Why do you sit on a movie? Like you've been in the industry? You know, it's hard to do this shit. And I'm like, I know what, when you're already there in the muck of it. You might as well make a good story. Yep. I might be out of my mind. You guys. I don't know. I think.

Christine Chen 37:51

No, I really gravitated towards what you're saying about revisiting things from your childhood with a better understanding as an adult. I've definitely did that have been doing that whether it's labor, looking at revisiting films, it seemed why was it that I enjoyed it as a kid, because I couldn't articulate that back then. But now looking at like ET and Jurassic Park and some of these hits and going in with a more sophisticated eye. Understanding the subtleties of what makes that film great is a huge, huge learning tool, and like, just pretty inspirational in general. I'm there. I don't know if you've done art, I always go back to this artists way. But there's a book called artists way where they're just basically a bunch of exercises for helping with creativity. Yeah. And one of the things that they really do point out is that on a weekly or basis, or even daily, you should set aside time to let your mind be a child. So it was kind of like what your you guys are saying with like, just simply playing a game or, you know, listening to some music or something that that helps to open the doors of creativity, because there's so many things that we as adults set aside because it doesn't seem mature, or whatever that definition is, but it's so much creativity is a the wonderment of being a child of exploring the world, like a child, and on unfiltered, and that's creativity.

Carly Shiell 39:39

Like when you created as a child, you weren't worried about it being this like perfect. Also, you just made it and you just enjoyed making it. And that's something like I have to remember definitely, I mean, like if I'm like doing like watercolor painting or something I'm just like, doesn't matter just like enjoy that you're doing that, you know, I get so yeah, this doesn't look right. This looks bad, but it's your taste is better than your ability.

Adam Rani 40:09

Yeah, because we're our worst enemy.

Carly Shiell 40:13

Then somebody else sees in like, oh, that looks nice.

Adam Rani 40:15

Yeah, well, what's the big deal? It's actually really nice. And then you're just like, no, it is stupid, it sucks, I hate it.

Carly Shiell 40:21

I have read like, you know, treat yourself like you are like speak to yourself how you would like your best friend and things like that?

Christine Chen 40:31

Yeah, so.

Carly Shiell 40:33

I haven't though it about it and like connecting to the artists way in that I've done, I haven't done like all of that.

Christine Chen 40:39

But they were saying like, especially when you're saying like, things brought you. It's not that you forgot you just tucked it away. And it's true. It's like we have these adults’ responsibilities that we're supposed to do that we don't allow ourselves to enjoy and spend time with the child and it is that child that that it does open up and breed creativity. So, I just thought that was really interesting that you mentioned that because yeah, it was a thing and artists way that they are like, hey, you need to spend time. Recently on a podcast Shama M, Night. Shama said the same thing that he really was forcing himself to have two hours in a day where he just thinks, and he's like, hopefully, I'm not just staring at a wall, and nothing comes. But like, setting aside that time, it's so important for processing to be out of yourself that to, to let go of the societal barriers that we have been trained to put in place because we're supposed to behave and act a certain way in society type thing.

Carly Shiell 41:55

And we talked about like driving kind of driving that time where you have to focus on that, but you also can like, let your mind wander. Sara Blakely and her masterclass, like Spanx creator. She also talked about like she's goes for drives, and I didn't even drive till I was 22. And now it's this time where I am. I don't know, I just love listening to music and kind of like, it helps me get out of my head and just.

Adam Rani 42:20

You are zoning out yeah, in a safe way. Of course, you're driving but yeah,

Carly Shiell 42:24

Be in my head in a better way.

Adam Rani 42:27

Exactly. By pushing out all of the people who you want to kill in your life, just like just push that to the side.

Carly Shiell 42:33

I can't think about you right now. I'm having a moment while music's playing.

Adam Rani 42:38

Exactly. Exactly. So, I mean, I think that just about does its you guys, we're ready to retake this plane for landing. Ladies and gentlemen. That has been the Get Reelisms podcast get on Getreelisms.com Pick up the book Erzuliefilm.com for the podcasting stuff Erzulie film needs Okay, ladies and gentlemen. Um we're gonna hopefully be back next week. We have some busy.

Christine Chen 43:09

We are off weekends and Sundays actually perfect because Sundays like the day we have to wind down and be back on site to do it over again.

Adam Rani 43:18

I think like Sunday's are like my days of just because like I work always like throughout the week anyways, I forget to give myself a day off sometimes so it's just kind of like Sunday's are like that would be good podcasting days for me at least. So yeah, alright guys, I think we're gonna be back here next week. Tune in we love you. Anything

Christine Chen 43:44

We will either be in Frazier Park or in route, somewhere in LA or Long Beach. I think that was our plan.

Adam Rani 43:53

With decent internet connection Correct. Anyway, so uh, we will be back next week ladies and gentlemen. Anything else you want to add Christine before we say goodbye?

Christine Chen 44:04

Ah, no, this is the adventures of Carly and Christine for a good month. Yeah,

Adam Rani 44:10

You guys are in your honeymoon right now.

Christine Chen 44:12

Yes, we are. Yeah, this is like our seventh one. I guess our trip afterwards

Adam Rani 44:25

Alright guys,

Christine Chen 44:27

Well, everybody out there keep writing keep creating and enjoy it.

Adam Rani 44:34

And be a child who gives a fuck.